Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Did you know that 93% of Americans have metabolic issues or they're taking medications that a low carb diet could drastically or significantly improve or even reverse?
[00:00:14] Speaker B: Welcome to the Dust or Mud podcast.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: My name is Rich and I'm Shelley.
[00:00:17] Speaker B: This is episode 100 of the Duster Mud podcast where we like to talk about food freedom and farming. Today we're going to focus our discussion on food. Food in in particular, a low carb diet.
[00:00:32] Speaker A: Did you just say episode 100?
[00:00:35] Speaker B: 100.
[00:00:36] Speaker A: Holy bully, y'all. That's crazy. I think when you get into triple digit digits you can stop.
[00:00:45] Speaker B: No, no, no.
[00:00:46] Speaker A: We're just picking up pace.
[00:00:48] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: This is great. Hey, and thank you guys for everybody who does listen and does watch and have been with us all this time, since the very beginning that we made it to episod. Thank you for sticking with us.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: For sure. Thank you.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: Yeah, so low carb man. We do like to get into what, what eating real food can do for people. And we came across another very interesting set of data and information that we think that our. That you will really think is interesting.
[00:01:22] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. This is an article written led by Dr. Nina Teicholtz. It's published in a peer reviewed journal called Nutrients and the title is Myths and Facts Regarding Low Carbohydrate Diets.
[00:01:40] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a lot out there about if you go low carb or ketogenic. We've even gotten comments on our podcast on the YouTube channel about different myths or things that are associated with being keto that maybe aren't necessarily true. And what to eat and what not to eat is really been really confusing in the American diet. And these folks really have done a fantastic job at debunking some of those common myths. So what are they Actually, let's discuss who did this paper?
Some clinicians.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: Yeah, Dr. Teichels led it and she is fairly famous. You might know her. Best selling author of the Big Fat Surprise that really got her, I think on the, on the radar of a lot of folks. But she has a PhD in nutrition and really how nutrition affects our body. So she led this study and then she's joined by a host of other doctors and clinicians and researchers to publish this article. The thing that's awesome that I think about this article is it's a total of 12 pages, but about four of those are references and there's a, a new food pyramid that we'll talk about and show you. So, like it's a real good synopsis of a whole lot of research a.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: Little bit more credibility to Nina along with the big fat surprise that we read back in 2019 and like boom, opened our eyes to the world of fat in a different way. Back when we very first went started eating low carb keto, kicked sugar out.
But she's also the co. She's also a founder, co founder of the Nutrition Coalition and it's an organization that has really worked and spearheaded with working in D.C. with the Dietary guidelines and have, have tried or have been trying to be involved with getting those dietary guidelines changed. I'm not sure to their success just so far, but really trying to flip the script on what's going on in nutrition.
And so she gets together with these other clinicians and these people. Thank goodness.
Because none of us want to do what they did.
[00:04:18] Speaker B: Yeah, they were able to review and synthesize and summarize over a hundred different studies and peer reviewed articles and they really, really just went far and wide and they discarded a lot of things that other people quote as okay, that's not good science. And they kept only the articles and best studies in their synopsis and really threw together a concise review.
[00:04:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's not even a difficult read. It's easy to understand.
They really broke things down in a way that the average American who's not a nutritionist and is not a clinician can really understand what, what we should or shouldn't be eating or what to. What to believe about it. And one of the things that is often in nutrition, the epidemiological studies are often used and those are, those are very difficult to really get accurate data. So they really focused whenever they were reviewing the studies on studies that were randomized controlled trials.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: Right.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: That, that, that's kind of the, the gold standard. It is the gold standard in scientific study. And so they took the own, they tried to really focus in on that which really gives their, their paper credibility to me.
[00:05:52] Speaker B: And the, the epidemiological studies that Shelly mentioned that they did not include, they're things like they will, there will be questionnaires on how many of this type of meal did you eat two years ago? And people write down and answer these questions and use that to make a study and they're just not trustworthy. I mean most of us can't remember what we ate yesterday, let alone two years ago. So those types of studies just aren't very good and lead to sort of junk science. And they discarded those types of studies.
[00:06:29] Speaker A: So you know, follow the science or let's really focus in on the Science is what these folks have tried to do is go find where studies have been done in the past. And let's really see, what does keto do? What does low carb do? How does this affect the average American when it comes to their metabolic health? And before we go any further, if you are under the care of a doctor and you have type 2 diabetes. Diabetes, any other metabolic help that you happen to be on medication for, do not change your diet until you consult and start working with your doctor. We are not doctors. And you need to be under the supervision of your doctor before you start a ketogenic or low carb diet in order to bring down or to change your mel or change your metabolic health. Please, please. Because you can get yourself into a world of hurt. So there's the medical disclaimer.
[00:07:22] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:07:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Must be said.
[00:07:24] Speaker B: Right? Okay, so let's start this with a couple of myths that they debunk right at the beginning. Okay, so myth number one. Carbohydrates are essential. And you hear that a lot. And you even do a Google search. I played around with Google's new artificial intelligence and played around with little bit asking it about nutrition. And almost immediately it took me to, you know, you have to have, you know, these healthy whole grains and like it. It leads to a high carbohydrate, low fat diet.
[00:08:05] Speaker A: It's crazy. In 2025.
[00:08:07] Speaker B: Right.
[00:08:07] Speaker A: Even that there's, there's, there's a lot of information out there that is on that that AI would have access to.
[00:08:18] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: That says a ketogenic diet is very helpful and helpful in helping someone reverse their diabetes or become more metabolically better functioning. And it couldn't find it.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: Well, it would say things about it that were okay for the ketogenic diet, but then it would, it would always throw in a clarif that you know, but this and that and whatever. Okay, so the, the myth that carbohydrates are essential, that has. That has been debunked. The minimum number of carbohydrates required it for daily intake is zero.
[00:09:03] Speaker A: Zero. Yes. Your brain needs glucose. You need glucose for your blood cells. There are other cells within your body that require glucose.
[00:09:12] Speaker B: But in the study they talked about brain blood cells and eyes.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: Eyes. That was the other one.
[00:09:17] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:09:18] Speaker A: Brains, blood cells and eyes that need some glucose.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: Very little, but they do need glucose.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: But the cool thing is your body was created in such a way that it is not required for you to eat glucose every day. And no matter what you put in your face, your liver Will create enough glucose for your body and you through glucose neogenesis and it will provide your. Those cells that require it the required amount.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: Yeah. I actually had blood work done. Had been on a carnivore diet for over a year when I had blood work done. And my blood sugar level that morning fasted hadn't had more than about 20 carbs in a year and my blood sugar was right smack dab in the middle of normal.
[00:10:06] Speaker A: Yeah. It your body doing exactly what it's supposed to do to keep itself?
[00:10:10] Speaker B: Yeah. I really thought I was going to get in trouble. I was in the air Force at the time and I thought, oh boy, this is, this is going to be it right here.
[00:10:18] Speaker A: Was. Was as. As.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: Yeah, this is going to be it right here. I'm gonna about to have a fight with my flight doc because he's going to tell me that my blood sugar is like nothing. Because I didn't understand the way the body worked when we started doing this whole thing.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: But I. But you knew that your body was working well.
[00:10:36] Speaker B: I knew it was working well, but.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: I'm like, felt good.
[00:10:38] Speaker B: I felt good. But I also thought, man, my blood sugar's got to be low and it wasn't.
[00:10:42] Speaker A: Yeah. But the, the thing about this information is it really challenges the, the USDA guidelines that puts the. Encourages high carb consumption and puts on the bottom of the pyramid, the current food pyramid. It puts down there all those carbohydrates with whole grains and rices and crackers and pasta and bread and all of that that you. 11 carbohydrate servings a day. I think it was like, it's a ridiculous amount. But at any rate, this really challenges that.
[00:11:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:18] Speaker A: And. But the science says zero.
[00:11:21] Speaker B: That's right. That's the minimum required. How much do you have to have on a daily basis? None. That's what your body requires.
[00:11:29] Speaker A: Myth number two, Saturated fat causes heart disease.
[00:11:33] Speaker B: There's been a lot of studies to debunk that.
[00:11:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:36] Speaker B: And the, the common. It's just the common repeated phrases that are just at this point accepted as truth. Even though the studies have proven them to not be true, they just continue to be repeated.
[00:11:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Nutritional dogma.
[00:11:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:55] Speaker A: It's just over and over and over and over again and all we've ever heard.
[00:11:59] Speaker B: If you, if you say it enough, it has to be true. Right.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: Right.
[00:12:02] Speaker B: And if it's out there on the Internet enough, that's what your search searches will reveal back to you. Because it's out there so much. Yeah. That's what AI has learned because it's learned the Internet. Right.
[00:12:13] Speaker A: So that fat's just going to turn to solid in your arteries.
[00:12:18] Speaker B: Right. Which is absolutely not true. They've. They found actually that in the absence of carbohydrates, health actually improves with a higher saturated fat diet.
[00:12:30] Speaker A: It's completely opposite of what we.
[00:12:33] Speaker B: In the absence of carbohydrates.
[00:12:34] Speaker A: Right, right.
[00:12:35] Speaker B: So like if you're following that standard American diet where you've got that base of your daily intake is carbohydrates, you.
[00:12:44] Speaker A: Better be low fat, you. I mean, yeah, like truly. Or you're going to wind up with metabolic dysfunction, function, heart disease, Alzheimer's and every other problem in your body.
Oh, wait, the standard American diet that.
[00:12:58] Speaker B: We'Re, you're going to end up there.
[00:13:00] Speaker A: With as one of the 93%.
[00:13:02] Speaker B: Right. Oh, and the, the 7% that, that aren't there are either following a low carb diet or they're young, like 19, and they just haven't gotten there yet. Oh, they're eating the standard American diet, but their bodies have not started displaying all of the illnesses yet.
One of the things that I was thinking about as we were prepping for this podcast was, man, there's no, there's no like full gauge like you're you when you start as a teenager. You're just eating the standard American diet and your body's just humming along. I mean, like, no, no, no problem. And you just keep going. And there's not a. Okay, now a gauge that says, all right, you need to stop this now.
[00:13:48] Speaker A: I can tell you about when it happens.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: You just start displaying the issues and the symptoms of metabolic disorder.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: This is kind of funny, but you want to know when it happens?
[00:13:59] Speaker B: When does it happen?
[00:14:00] Speaker A: So it happens between your tenure and your 20 year high school reunion. Because a 10 year high school reunion, everybody's like still young and fit and just still sort of about the same size and person.
[00:14:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:12] Speaker A: Time you get to your 20 year class, class reunion, there's, there's changes that have happened. You know, you can really see it in the men. Yeah, they're carrying their weight a lot different. And you can see it in the women. Like you, everyone you can tell between 10 and 20, somewhere in there, in your mid-30s. Yeah, mid-30s, things start flipping and going, okay, we can't do this anymore. It has so. So somewhere back in your mid-20s is when it started declining, is when your.
[00:14:40] Speaker B: Body said, I can't do this.
[00:14:43] Speaker A: That's just like just looking at society.
[00:14:47] Speaker B: You know, wouldn't it be nice if there was like a gauge.
[00:14:50] Speaker A: It would, you know, you're ding change oil now.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:54] Speaker A: You know, you're, you're done. You better change what you're doing. Your days of that are over. Wow. Yeah, that would be nice. But they, we didn't get that.
So you just have to know. Yeah. When you're young, some people. But here's the thing.
It's okay with those young people that maybe that are active and that are do it occasionally or do it some because we're seeing diet type 2 diabetes and obesity, overweight metabolic dysfunction in kids.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: Right.
[00:15:29] Speaker A: So it's not even. So. Yeah, maybe we, maybe to some degree there are athletes out there that can eat a whole pizza because they're really active. But for a lot of these kids that are. Have lead a sedentary lifestyle, they're getting sick early.
[00:15:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:46] Speaker A: We're seeing 7, 10, 12 year olds that are really broken right before they even get into high school.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Right.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: So while it's true or certainly was true in our generation, I don't know if this upcoming generation that their time line is the same as ours was.
[00:16:04] Speaker B: That's fair.
[00:16:05] Speaker A: You know, because they're really. A lot of them are broke.
[00:16:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: Anyway. But back to the. The saturated fat Myth evidence in 2020 Journal of American College of Cardiology. No evidence the saturated fats increase heart. Heart risk.
That's huge. I mean these are. It's coming from the heart people just like five years ago saying it's not saturated fat. Yet it continues to be demonized.
[00:16:39] Speaker B: But the dogma hasn't caught up.
[00:16:40] Speaker A: No, it has not continuously demonized.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: Right.
That leads to myth number three, which is red meat causes cancer and heart disease.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: I mean, we just, we have read articles in mainstream media relatively recently.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: Well, yeah, it was the hard. When we did a podcast that red.
[00:17:01] Speaker A: Meat causes all these problems and it's such crap. I mean, it really, really is because there are genuine scientific studies out there that prove otherwise.
[00:17:15] Speaker B: Yeah, they, they can't find any clear link.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:17:19] Speaker B: So it, it's not that there's a cleared disapproval. Disapproval. But they can't, they're. They have not yet come up with. Here's the definite link between red meat and cancer or red meat and heart disease. They like, if you really go through the, which this team did, if you go through all of the, the, all of the studies and, and all of the trials and all of the things, there's just no clear link.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: Well, they would have to do a study with people just eating red meat for A very long period of time in order to determine that. And they. We would have done it, but they didn't ask us.
Right.
[00:17:57] Speaker B: You provide the meat, pay me to grow my meat.
[00:18:01] Speaker A: That's right. You pay me to grow my meat. Ali. Only that for a year. And let's talk. But whenever they do these studies, a lot of those were epidemiological studies and they were eating a lot of red meat. Unfortunately, they came in a bun well.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: Next to french fries and the other thing. And they, they do this a lot say with, with when they quote the improved health of vegans. Right. Like they do the same thing with these studies and they don't take into account that, you know, people are more or less likely to work out. People are more or less likely to be sm. More or less likely to be heavy alcohol drinkers. Like, they don't consider all of the other factors. You know, if.
And as you say, the red meat might be in a McDonald's hamburger or, you know, a quarter pounder double Big Mac. Right, Right. Like it's not just meat.
[00:18:57] Speaker A: Right. Yeah. Sit down with just a ribeye and some butter.
[00:19:00] Speaker B: Right. It's not that.
[00:19:02] Speaker A: It's not that.
Which is really good, by the way.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: So good. But people will look at you like you have lost your mind.
[00:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:12] Speaker A: But it's so good and good for you.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: Okay, so that's a. Just a quick review of a few of the myths that they debunk. Moving on, let's talk about what low carb lifestyle or diets do with type 2 diabetes.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah. Well, it can nearly, if not actually reverse it by completely getting the carbs out of your life and switching over to real for first of all, real food. Yeah.
Studies show clinical trials consistently show low carb keto diets yield over 50% remission rates in type 2 diabetes.
[00:20:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:04] Speaker A: In 12 months.
[00:20:05] Speaker B: Yeah. So that's the, the, the, the way that's worded is a little bit weird. So the people are still, when I actually looked at the data, the people are still following the diet, 50% of them, 12 months later.
[00:20:23] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:20:24] Speaker B: So it doesn't mean that only 50% saw an improvement in their symptoms or a remission, the adherence to the diet. So at a year, 50% are still adhering to the diet. At two years, it drops down to like 38%. And so that's where you get this 50% number. It's not, not that only 50% saw improvement.
[00:20:49] Speaker A: Oh, that is worded really weird.
[00:20:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:20:53] Speaker A: Well, probably everyone saw improvement, but only 50% stuck with it stuck with it. Got it. Okay, here's some cool. And if you've been watching long enough, you know, we did a, an entire podcast on the American Diabetes Association.
They now acknowledge low carb diets as having the most evidence supporting diabetes management.
[00:21:18] Speaker B: And reversal as recently as January 2025.
[00:21:24] Speaker A: So the ADA American Diabetes association is now. They were not before.
Is now recognizing that low carb diets are effective for reversing diabetes.
[00:21:39] Speaker B: And then you have the asterisk that says but it's hard to stick to but you got to be under doctors supervision. But, but, but, but, but.
[00:21:48] Speaker A: Well, they have to do that.
[00:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
Wow. Yeah. But the, so the, the effects of a low carb diet on reversing, putting into remission, however you want to talk about it, having significant impacts on type 2 diabetes. The low carb diet is a like very, very effective.
[00:22:12] Speaker A: So if you're having an impact on type 2 diabetes, you're probably having an impact on several other conditions that problem with. Right.
[00:22:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: I mean you probably have inflammation and you probably have high cholesterol and you probably. All these other things that your doctor has told you you have a problem with, you probably have.
What else do people.
[00:22:37] Speaker B: Well, it's all kinds of metabolic issues. It's heart disease, it's mental disorders, like a whole lot of things. The joint pain, I mean, well, really caused from inflammation.
[00:22:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:48] Speaker B: And the high, high, high carbohydrate, typically high seed oil diets are lead to the inflammation. They're high, highly inflammatory. And the real food fat foundation, ketogenic diet, not inflammatory. So you see huge amounts of improvement with those inflammatory type issues that you're having in your body. Like I don't know, brain fog and.
[00:23:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: Alzheimer's and dementia and joint pain and rheumatoid arthritis and like all of these. There's so many inflammatory type issues that people's bodies, like different people exhibit those inflammatory issues in different ways. But the ketogenic diet, because it is by definition low inflammatory, like not only.
[00:23:41] Speaker A: Do you fix your type 2 diabetes and your blood sugar problems, you also a side effect is you're going to probably fix all of these other things that you're on the other medications for.
[00:23:53] Speaker B: And all weight loss.
[00:23:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
Which is going to increase your. Well, make better your overall lifestyle.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Right.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: Like obviously. Or your life.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:09] Speaker B: So in, in building this article, they generated a new food pyramid.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: And I love it because we have been talking and we have said how many times that the food pyramid needed to be turned upside down.
[00:24:25] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:25] Speaker A: So what they've done is recreated. It basically threw it on its head.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: That's right, yeah.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: And what was at the top is now the base.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: Right.
[00:24:34] Speaker A: And you know, and I love it.
[00:24:37] Speaker B: I love the fact that, you know, on the old food pyramid, if you think back to what it looked like, it was a, a picture of basically vegetable oil, you know.
[00:24:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:47] Speaker B: And they didn't include that. Which was. Which I think is good.
[00:24:50] Speaker A: Oh yeah, yeah, that is good. But they're the, the base is now fats and proteins.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:24:57] Speaker A: And then in the middle your grown above ground vegetables, your spinaches and lettuces and anything. Your cruciferous vegetables like broccoli and cauliflower, things that are, are grown above ground. So you're going to not eat potatoes and all your tubers with sweet potatoes. They're higher starch and they're higher carbohydrate. Yes. They're real food. But whenever you're trying to be ketogenic low carb and reverse your diabetes, you definitely want to eliminate as many carbohydrates as you possibly can. So while it's a whole food and in some circumstances might be okay for someone in this one, you really want to eliminate it. And then at the top of the list, because this is for metabolically challenged people.
[00:25:42] Speaker B: Yeah. And they, they make that like even in the article or even if you listen to Nina talk about the article, she, she makes clear that this is not necessarily the food pyramid for everyone. Just 93%.
[00:25:56] Speaker A: Right. That's because the other 7% are probably already doing it anyway.
Yeah. And then at the top is like.
[00:26:07] Speaker B: Your low sugar fruits.
[00:26:08] Speaker A: Right.
[00:26:08] Speaker B: Those types of things. And, and then they, they basically make a. An avoid your refined carbs, sugar, you know those ultra processed type things that they list those sort of off over to the side over here basically has just a void.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: So the pyramid, you got meats, fats, healthy fats on the base level and then low, low carb veggies here in the middle level. And then you.
Fruits like berries and avocados, those types of things up at the top level.
[00:26:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
One of the things that that old pyramid really did and all the dogma has done is if you're over the age of 50, you probably have fat phobia. Like we're really genuinely scared of eating too much fat because it's going to kill us. I mean it's just genuinely a feeling that we might have. But if you kick take those grains out of your life and that sugar out of your life and you Eat fat. There is absolutely nothing to be afraid of. It's going to make you feel so good, it's going to energize you and your body's going to run better than it ever has. You have been lied to.
[00:27:20] Speaker B: Do you know that USDA removed low fat from the guidelines in 2015?
[00:27:25] Speaker A: 10 years ago.
[00:27:27] Speaker B: 10 years ago they took low fat out of the guidelines. Has that caught up yet?
[00:27:31] Speaker A: No, no. We're so far behind. 2015.
[00:27:35] Speaker B: That was the last time. Yeah.
[00:27:37] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:27:38] Speaker B: Another, another sort of myth is that transitioning away from the standard American diet to a low carb or ketogenic diet is just too cost prohibitive. Like nobody can afford that.
[00:27:54] Speaker A: Yeah, we've talked about that before too. You know that it. Well, I can't afford to eat as much protein or I can't.
Yeah, it's just, it's too expensive.
[00:28:06] Speaker B: And we, on that podcast we talked about and we put up the data for the amount of calories and basically the nutrition that you get out of a jug of olive oil or a jug of coconut oil.
[00:28:19] Speaker A: Right.
[00:28:19] Speaker B: And the price for that. And like you can't compare it to anything else as far as how much, how many calories or how much nutrition you get out of those things compared to something else. In this particular article they referenced a New Zealand study and they, they actually did a full study and what they found was that it. When you convert New Zealand dollars to US dollars, the price difference was about $1.27 a day, extra, extra per person for to switch over to a low carb, high fat diet because New Zealand's recommended government Recommended dietary Guidance, it basically follows the US Basically exactly.
It really is comparing apples to apples with this one. So you have following the standard guidance versus a low carb, high fat diet and the price difference in US dollars is about A$27 a day.
[00:29:27] Speaker A: And I would, I mean I get what they're saying and I would still probably challenge that to the average American who's eating very expensive, typically doordashed a lot of times drive through. So I. Not very many people, I forget the statistic but like maybe, maybe half of the people even cook at home anymore. So that, that was a couple of years ago and I understand what they're saying, but I would even probably challenge that and say that it would be even cheaper.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:55] Speaker A: If they ate at home.
[00:29:56] Speaker B: This is just their like. Right. Like they, they went out and reviewed all the articles that have been written and that one is the one that's cool actually that I could find as.
[00:30:05] Speaker A: Well, so it is affordable that ground beef, eggs.
[00:30:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:10] Speaker A: And some butter. And you're good to go.
[00:30:14] Speaker B: Right?
[00:30:15] Speaker A: And you're good to go.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: Yep. And you know, they, they mentioned the fact that when you switch to a high fat, low carbohydrate diet, you are satiated longer. So you, you can toss out the. Between meals.
[00:30:29] Speaker A: Yeah. You're probably only going to eat maybe eventually you're going to eat like two times a day.
[00:30:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:35] Speaker A: And it's really gonna, you can get.
[00:30:37] Speaker B: Rid of the crackers and the cookies and the chips and all of the things those, those between meal, go to the vending machine and throw in a dollar here and a dollar there. Like those, those all just go away.
[00:30:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: Because you don't need those between meal.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: Snacks because you're not having the crash.
[00:30:53] Speaker B: Right.
More satiating.
[00:30:56] Speaker A: Much more environmental sustainability, man. So that's another one that, well, that meat, cattle, livestock, I mean, they're like ruining our climate, right?
[00:31:15] Speaker B: No, no, no. If you actually look at the numbers and this, that's another sort of myth is that, you know, we need to get rid of the, the livestock around even, even just like as it is right now.
[00:31:28] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:31:30] Speaker B: Livestock make up about 4,4% depending on what you look at between 3.9 and 4.3. So I'll just say 4,4% of greenhouse gas emissions from the United States of America. 4% is livestock.
So.
[00:31:46] Speaker A: And that's traditionally grown livestock. We're talking feedlot livestock.
[00:31:52] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:31:53] Speaker A: Because farmers who are farming like we do, if you don't know, we do farm. We have a regenerative farm where we do have cattle and sheep. And the farm, the way we do our cows actually help the environment because the way that we rotate them and the way that we manage our land, they're actually helping to sequester the carbon back into the ground where it belongs, rather than emitting, just standing in a lot emitting it where it goes nowhere.
[00:32:25] Speaker B: And that's why I said even if you consider the way that things are done now. So agriculture as a whole is 9.9% of the, you know, the emissions from the United States. Over half of that is based on tilling. So greater than 50% is just land management, the way that, the way that crops are grown.
So a. If you really wanted to have a great, like we're going to change agriculture, we'll pick the thing that has the, the worst, you know, that is the worst offender. You would not go go, you would not go to livestock. You would go to crop row. Crops row Crops.
[00:33:04] Speaker A: The tilling.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: So where's the call to stop.
[00:33:10] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, stop the row. Crops.
No, no, not. Not yet anyway. Right. Not yet. And if you're listening to this, what you can't see is the. All the air quotes.
Air quotes. Because we.
Well, that would be another discussion. But you know, with the greenhouse gases and emissions and all the things, you know, I. Yeah. I'm not a. I'm not a climate expert, you know, but I do appreciate a healthy planet and I really appreciate healthy animals.
[00:33:47] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:33:47] Speaker A: And healthy land.
[00:33:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:49] Speaker A: So.
[00:33:51] Speaker B: So a call for change.
We transitioned to a ketogenic lifestyle in 2019. So we've been at this for over six years now and have seen zero negative health effects. With a multitude of positive health effects.
[00:34:11] Speaker A: Absolutely. So recently I got an injury and had to go to the doctor quite a bit.
[00:34:18] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: And. And it was interesting to both of us because every time they would ask, they would be floored when they asked, how many medications are you on? Or what medications are you on?
[00:34:30] Speaker B: Not, are you on any medications.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: Oh, you're right. You're right.
[00:34:36] Speaker B: That's not the question.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: What medications are you on?
[00:34:40] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:34:41] Speaker A: And I would reply with, I'm not on any medications. And they would look at me like, really, like, none. No, none. At 52, I suppose I was supposed to be. That's the way they acted.
[00:34:57] Speaker B: Right.
[00:34:57] Speaker A: But we're not. We're neither one on a medication to help our metabolic situation of any sort or. Or anything like that caused by, quote, lifestyle. We're not on lifestyle medication.
[00:35:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I, I do take medication for Crohn's disease, and I talked with my GI doctor about it at my most recent visit and asked her if I couldn't come off some of it. And because I've had bowel resection surgery, they've removed about as much of my small intestine as I can have removed. So she said we might could get you off of some of these, but you, you know, you are at a higher risk than someone else because if anything happens, you're now in a world of hurt. You know, we don't, we don't have the option to, you know, options have been removed for, for me. So I am on some meds and it's.
[00:35:57] Speaker A: But they're not lifestyle meds.
[00:35:59] Speaker B: No.
[00:35:59] Speaker A: You know, that's what I was trying to get at that sometimes circumstantially we have to. But we're not on anything that has been given to us because of our previous. Because of our lifestyle.
[00:36:11] Speaker B: Right.
[00:36:12] Speaker A: Which I, I'm thinking Most. That's what they would be referring to for most people. Blood pressure medication.
[00:36:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:19] Speaker A: And such.
[00:36:20] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:36:21] Speaker A: Well, I used to be on blood pressure medicine and started eating like this and had to go off of it.
[00:36:27] Speaker B: Right.
[00:36:27] Speaker A: And now I'm not on anything.
[00:36:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:29] Speaker A: So I used to. Yes.
About what, a year after that? A year after we.
Maybe six months after we started eating like this.
[00:36:39] Speaker B: Yeah. So.
[00:36:39] Speaker A: And I was not like overweight or unfit or anything.
[00:36:43] Speaker B: Already in your mid-40s, you were on blood.
[00:36:45] Speaker A: I was on. I was, but it was the carbohydrate load.
[00:36:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:49] Speaker A: Causing it.
Not my age.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: Right.
[00:36:54] Speaker A: And not the fact that I didn't go to the gym. Because I went to the gym.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: Right.
[00:36:57] Speaker A: I was relatively the same size as I am right now. It just, just it, it caused my body to work differently and now I don't need it, which is awesome.
[00:37:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
So y'all, we, we love this lifestyle, this way of eating, and so much so that we started a farm so that we could grow our own food and eat real meat and, you know, regeneratively grown meat and have healthy fats. Like we, we, we actually do love this. And I would, I would really encourage you if you're considering a ketogenic or low carb lifestyle, check out this article. It's a, it's an easy read and I, it might help you change your mind or convince you that this is the way to go. And for those of you who are fighting with your family and friends over this lifestyle decision that you've made to be ketogenic, this offers some really good information on why you're not crazy.
[00:38:14] Speaker A: Right.
[00:38:15] Speaker B: You know, and, and why this actually is a good thing. And even though it goes against conventional wisdom or the US Current, at least USDA guidelines on how you should be eating, you know, you're, you're not actually crazy.
[00:38:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
One point I would. Else. One other point I would like to make is those family members may come to you and say, yeah, but I've heard that when you start this, it's going to make you really sick. It's going to give you something called the keto flu. And, and they, yes, that can happen whenever you stop eating carbohydrates and your body starts emptying of all of the fluids because it naturally your body holds extra fluid. On the high carbohydrate diet, you're going to start losing some of that and that's going to be your initial weight loss. And with it is going to go some sodium and some electrolytes. Easy fix. Drink some broth. But we figured out how to not have to suffer. You drink some chicken broth, add some salt to it and keep your salts up, your electrolytes up for those cells for your brain so that you don't get the headache and you'll breeze right through it. It's really not as a cons as concern anymore as it was maybe five, six years ago, how to get through it.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: Especially now there's all this fear about flu. And so when you call it the keto flu, it's like, oh, it's not. It's just a general feeling of malaise due lack of electrolytes.
[00:39:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:48] Speaker B: So your muscles, your muscles may cramp. Right.
[00:39:51] Speaker A: Put some electrolytes in your body and you will be just fine. There's easy, easy remedy. Put some chicken bon cube and some hot water and drink it. We love this lifestyle. We like eating like this. We feel better for it. Are you on? Are you eating keto? Have you decided to go low carb? Have you done it before and you want to come back to it? Hey, what does your family and your friends think about it? Leave it in the comments below. We love to hear from you guys and thank you again, again for hanging out with us today. Until next time, bye, y'all.
[00:40:22] Speaker B: Bye.
