Breaking Down the BIGGEST Lies in Modern Health!!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: You should not be waiting on policy changes. Right. On an individual level, you should take care of yourself, buy yourself some real food and get up. Gary believes that we were wonderfully and fearfully created. And the things that we need to prosper and thrive are available to us without having to be made by humans. [00:00:19] Speaker B: They're killing us and we're allowing it. And the only way that we're going to be able to stop it is to take back control of our own lives. We're the only ones who, who are going care about ourselves the most. Like they don't care. There is something really, really wrong in this country. We're sick and tired and sick and tired of being sick and tired and rich. And I have been looking into what's really going on. [00:00:48] Speaker A: Welcome to the Duster Mud Podcast. I'm Rich and I'm Shelley. In the Duster Mud podcast, we like to talk about food freedom and farming. And I believe that the topic today is another all encompassing topic. We're. We'll hit on all three. [00:01:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Food, what we eat. [00:01:08] Speaker A: Yep. [00:01:09] Speaker B: It comes from farming. Well, it should. [00:01:11] Speaker A: And we'll talk freedom, how we can make it better if it did. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Right. And freedom. I believe that being sick and tired is very, I don't know, not free. [00:01:20] Speaker A: And the people in the United States can't even join the military these days. [00:01:25] Speaker B: Well, and that's a problem. That's a national security issue, I guess. [00:01:29] Speaker A: Definitely touches on freedom for sure. [00:01:31] Speaker B: We were sent a podcast a few days ago and it's a really long podcast, but we believe that it might be one of the best podcasts in this space discussing our, our health or our sickness and how we got here. [00:01:47] Speaker A: Gary Breca was the guest on Sean Ryan's podcast, the Sean Ryan show, and we've listened to Gary on other podcasts. He has his own the Ultimate Human podcast. And this particular one really seemed to wrap it up better than anywhere we've ever heard it. Heard him talking. [00:02:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Like put a nice little neat bow on some of the. The issues that we're having and some of the. Really, Honestly, guys, it's simple. It really is simple. And he simplified things down to the level of what we've been trying to say. Gary is a human biologist. He is not a physician, nor are we. We are not doctors. This is not medical advice. Anything that we say is our opinion, but it makes a whole lot of sense. We have been living this lifestyle for the last almost six years. And I can tell you that a lot of what he's saying holds to Be true. Just on our experience. [00:02:51] Speaker A: We just passed six years. [00:02:53] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:02:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:54] Speaker B: Well, my math was wrong then. [00:02:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:58] Speaker B: Okay. [00:02:59] Speaker A: We've, we've, we're now over six years, we have been following a ketogenic lifestyle. [00:03:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Low carb, whole food, no sugar, no grains. [00:03:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:10] Speaker B: Right. And I can tell you at 52, I am. You are almost. I don't necessarily know what I'm supposed to feel like, but I probably don't feel like people think I should feel at 52. [00:03:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel good. [00:03:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel, I feel pretty, pretty darn good. Even after many of you might know knee injury like four months ago. Now, like just four months, major knee injury and getting better. My body is recovering much faster than I even I anticipated. [00:03:45] Speaker A: And the reason why we farm like this, it led us to this entire regenerative agriculture movement. We wanted the best food that we could have, that, that would nourish our body, to provide health to our body. And, and we decided the best way we could do that was to do it ourselves. We've got some really exciting news we wanted to share with you. [00:04:08] Speaker B: We have officially launched a Patreon to give us the opportunity to connect more with you behind the scenes. [00:04:16] Speaker A: We've been trying to figure out how we can share more of our life without having to battle the YouTube algorithm that would punish us for putting out things that aren't high quality. So we've decided that Patreon is a great way of doing that we'll be able to share behind the scenes, looks at things that are going on around the farm, recipes we've even got planned in some live Q&As, lots of different things that we will be able to share with you that we just can't quite do with YouTube. [00:04:46] Speaker B: Another thing that we're looking forward to sharing with you our raw life a little more often and giving you the opportunity. We have so many listeners and viewers that are coming on that wish maybe that they could support us in some other way. And this gives you the opportunity to support the farm and be a part of what we're doing here in the movement that we have going on. [00:05:12] Speaker A: So if this is interesting at all to you, click the link in the description below and it'll take you over to our Patreon where you can join the Air to Ground Farms community. [00:05:24] Speaker B: We look forward to meeting you and seeing you guys over there in that area and actually getting to know you a little bit better. So one of the things that Gary really touches on in the podcast and what we would like to do today is just kind of discuss the podcast, summarize it a little bit, give our take on it. But we highly recommend, and we will put the link to the podcast. I've shared it with all of my children. Please go listen to the full length of the thing. It's over three hours long. They were committed. Yeah, I got that kind of time. [00:05:59] Speaker A: No. [00:06:00] Speaker B: So what we want to do is break it down for you, a few of the highlights in there and just have a common sense discussion about the things that are going on in our country. And one of the things that Gary really brings up is the faith in the fact that the human body can actually just kind of take care of itself. [00:06:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And that is opposite of what we're all taught. It's opposite of what we're all led to believe. [00:06:27] Speaker B: Right. [00:06:28] Speaker A: If you go into a doctor's office, the likelihood is you're leaving with a prescription for a medicine for something. You are probably not leaving the doctor's office with advice on how to change your lifestyle. [00:06:45] Speaker B: Yeah. There's not going to be much discussion on nutrition, what you're eating, and what you're doing with your life at all. We have some really dear friends that they went to have their annual checkups a couple of years ago. And the. They had done their blood work. They took blood, but the blood work wasn't back. And the pa, I believe it was kind of confidently said, oh, don't worry if there's any, you know, high, high numbers, cholesterol or whatever, we'll get you on something. [00:07:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:17] Speaker B: That's just the norm. You go in, especially in your 40s. [00:07:22] Speaker A: If there's high numbers. It was just a. Don't worry, we'll review your blood work and get you on something. [00:07:27] Speaker B: No, thanks. Right. Like, wait, what? Like, it was just an expected thing. And it is. After all this stuff with my knee, people were people in the medical field who were caring for me. And we are very good, by the way, at fixing broken things. [00:07:44] Speaker A: We, the United States health care system is very good at acute injury. [00:07:50] Speaker B: Sure. I tore. Tore it up. And they put Humpty Dumpty back together again. Really? [00:07:55] Speaker A: Well, I sliced my leg pretty good. [00:07:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:58] Speaker A: A couple years ago. [00:07:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And they fixed you right up. [00:08:01] Speaker A: Fixed me right up. [00:08:02] Speaker B: Got you all cleaned up. [00:08:03] Speaker A: You got a new tendon in your knee. [00:08:05] Speaker B: Yeah. So we as a nation and our healthcare system's very good at that. Cool. But the fact that we've got to throw a pharmaceutical at every potential, even maybe problem is really where we've fallen off the Rails. [00:08:25] Speaker A: The United States spends more than any other developed country on healthcare. By far, the United States has the lowest life expectancy of all of the developed nations by a matter of years. [00:08:40] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:08:41] Speaker A: Those two things don't go together. [00:08:43] Speaker B: We spend more and die sooner. [00:08:46] Speaker A: That, that shouldn't be the relationship between those two numbers. No, a couple of things. One is if that's the relationship, then start spending less so you can live longer. [00:09:02] Speaker B: Oh. [00:09:03] Speaker A: Hmm. [00:09:04] Speaker B: Okay. But here's the thing. The pharmaceutical companies and big pharma really are a for profit organizations and they depend on sick people to continue to create a profit. [00:09:19] Speaker A: So the, there's a. I believe that there's an overall unwillingness to believe that there's, there's something nefarious going on. Right. Like they're all just trying to take care of us. But again, I would point to we're spending more money than anyone else and we're living less years than anyone else. Like these two things, that is illogical. It does not go together. [00:09:50] Speaker B: Right. [00:09:50] Speaker A: And if it is going together, like if, if those two things, like the data shows that they're both true. So something is wrong. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:02] Speaker A: Something is broken. Something needs to be fixed. [00:10:06] Speaker B: Well, Gary talks about. Let's just talk about a couple of examples. One of them being when you go to the doctor because you have a symptom of, say, vitamin D3 deficiency. Okay, yeah, we.1, that's a.1, that's, that is, that is one symptom. The body lacks D3 for whatever reason. And we can discuss that if you want to, but from this one thing, you can get all the way down the cycle of. And he talks about it at length and in the podcast, joint pain and inflammation misdiagnosed as rheumatoid arthritis. So now you, you, you went from a simple vitamin deficiency to. Now we're going to call it rheumatoid arthritis. [00:10:56] Speaker A: But we don't, we don't know that we have the vitamin deficiency. Right. So what we have is joint pain. So we go to the doctor for joint pain. For joint pain. [00:11:05] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:06] Speaker A: The doctor does not say, let's test your vitamin 3 level or your vitamin D3 levels. [00:11:12] Speaker B: No, they give you a corticosteroid. [00:11:14] Speaker A: Steroid. [00:11:14] Speaker B: Steroid. [00:11:15] Speaker A: Oh, you have joint pain. You have, obviously you have, you're 50, you have, you obviously have rheumatoid arthritis. [00:11:21] Speaker B: Right. [00:11:22] Speaker A: All 50 year olds get rheumatoid arthritis. Let's get you on a corticosteroid to deal with that joint pain. [00:11:28] Speaker B: Well, it's Known that corticosteroids, especially long term use, damages joints, the joint themselves. Well, over time now you've damaged a joint, what's that going to lead to in a matter of a few years? Statistically about six years you're looking at a joint replacement. So you went in because you have joint pain, but you can be nearly guaranteed a. About six or seven years after that if you follow their, if you follow their prescription, they'll have you back in, take good care of you and make sure you get that knee replacement or that hip replacement, whatever joint it happens to be. [00:12:03] Speaker A: We, we're only, we're number two of all of the nation's developed nations with hip replacements. [00:12:12] Speaker B: Really? Wow. I think it was staggering. I think it was. [00:12:15] Speaker A: Sweden really might have, might do more hip replacements than we do, but we do more hip replacements than most every other. [00:12:23] Speaker B: If you continue down their prescription. So now you've replaced your joint. Well, that does reduce mobility. And I can tell you after this knee injury, it'll reduce your mobility and you better be dedicated to working through the pain and restrengthening your joint and getting back up and getting on the horse. Right. But if you're at that age where you're probably needing a joint replacement, getting up is hard because you haven't been getting up as much and the next thing you know, you're sitting more and it's going to lead to an earlier death. [00:12:59] Speaker A: Yeah. The more sedentary you are, the earlier you're going to die. [00:13:02] Speaker B: So if you follow their prescription for joint pain, statistically you're nearly guaranteed you're going to die earlier. [00:13:13] Speaker A: Right. [00:13:14] Speaker B: When the problem very well was the fact that you don't have enough D3 in your system. That's our medical system. [00:13:24] Speaker A: Correct. Because there is no focus on lifestyle and food and nutrition. Right. The focus is on what can I, what prescription can I write you? The, the doctors like again, they are, they are wonderful. They are amazing with acute injury. But if, if you go in for joint pain, they don't get any kickback from. You need to eat more foods that have vitamin D. You need to get outside. Right. Like they, there's, they don't get anything from. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Sun hit you. [00:14:00] Speaker A: The sun needs to be hitting your skin. [00:14:03] Speaker B: Drink raw milk. There are things that you can do. Eat more red meat, fatty fish. [00:14:12] Speaker A: Like there are things bacon or at. [00:14:16] Speaker B: Least maybe not bacon, but at least pork belly. [00:14:20] Speaker A: You know, the, the whole thing, I have joint pain. It does. What you don't get out of that conversation is let's do Some blood work and see what your, your vitamin levels are. [00:14:32] Speaker B: Let's see where your deficiencies are. [00:14:33] Speaker A: Maybe you're deficient in some nutrient. [00:14:36] Speaker B: And he really hits on that a lot. Is typically, most of our, our problems stem from some level of deficiency within our body. [00:14:45] Speaker A: Gary believes that we were wonderfully and fearfully created and the things that we need to prosper and thrive are available to us without having to be made by humans. [00:14:58] Speaker B: Yes, he does. And so that really aligns with how I believe that the human body was designed. And it's such a phenomenal mechanism in each and every cell is just amazing all by itself. But he really does to believe that and talk about that. [00:15:24] Speaker A: The bottom line to that discussion is that oftentimes very simple lifestyle changes can kick us off of the hamster wheel. That the, the big food, Big big pharma, medical, you know, establishment. [00:15:42] Speaker B: Medical establishment or medical industrial complex. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah, you get on this, you get on this hamster wheel and the food causes the deficiency incomes, the drug to the medical establishment, the hip replacement. And it just like you get on this wheel, right. And you just keep turning. You know that we've talked many times on the podcast about the issues with metabolic disorder and type 2 diabetes. Man, you want to talk about a hamster wheel, you get on that hamster wheel. And now they've got, they have a hamster for life. [00:16:15] Speaker B: Yeah. And these days it's getting younger and younger. They've got them longer and longer, except they're not going to live as long. So the, the earlier you have metabolic dysfunction. [00:16:26] Speaker A: But let's talk through that again. Logically speaking, type 2 diabetes used to be an older aged disease. Right. There, there was no early onset. [00:16:37] Speaker B: Right. [00:16:38] Speaker A: Like it used, like that became a thing. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:40] Speaker A: As in this transition. We talked about early onset now. Now we don't talk about that at all because there are children that have type 2 diabetes. But it used to happen later in life. Right. So a portion of the population got this disease towards the end of their life. They were dealing with it for 10, 15, 20 years, whatever. Right. So even if the young person is going to live three or four years. [00:17:09] Speaker B: Less, it's still a, if you're getting. [00:17:13] Speaker A: Type 2 diabetes at age five or six, you're still dealing with, you're still prescribed medicine, you're still injecting money to the big pharma. [00:17:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:24] Speaker A: For 70 plus years. [00:17:26] Speaker B: Right. [00:17:26] Speaker A: If you live your average life expectancy. So you know, over here, the way it used to be, you would get, you know, type 2 diabetes drugs for 1520 years. Now if you get type 50 diabetes, 60 years, 5, 6, 10, 20. [00:17:44] Speaker B: Right. [00:17:44] Speaker A: You're, you're paying for those drugs for the next 50, 60, 70 years. [00:17:49] Speaker B: Okay, well, you mentioned lifespan, longevity. There are some places in the world they call them blue zones. And these people live like up to. They live a lot longer than other places in the world. You get 100 year old, 100 plus easy in these, in these centenarians. Yeah, in these locations, which would be great, especially if you're still mobile and living your life up until your life ends. [00:18:15] Speaker A: So let's look at them. [00:18:16] Speaker B: That would be great. [00:18:16] Speaker A: They should all have something in common and it should be a diet, a lifestyle, a drug that they all take. There should be something. [00:18:26] Speaker B: Yeah, actually there's not any much in common with the different zones. They all eat a bit of a different cultural diet. They all live in different regions of the world, their climate is different. Some of them are just really not even doing what they should. They might be smoking and drinking wine and they're still living a long time. So it's a little. It debunks the myths of a specific diet. Now we talk about eating ketogenic diet often. We like that, we like the way that it makes us feel. But a specific diet and the dogma behind diets, whether it's vegan, carnivore, vegetarian, ketogenic, Atkins, I don't care what it is. But the point is all of these people who are living to be 100 years, dude, they have not been eating a carnivore diet for the last hundred years. [00:19:29] Speaker A: So the thing that they all have in common is they eat whole foods, foods that have always been foods, not foods that are chemically whatever. [00:19:38] Speaker B: Right. [00:19:38] Speaker A: They're eating whole foods and they're active. [00:19:41] Speaker B: Yep. And now in some of the regions they are, let's say Sardinians, for instance, they eat high carbohydrate diet. They live a long time, but they're eating whole food carbs. [00:19:56] Speaker A: Yeah, they make it out of their flour, which isn't enriched and bleached and all of these things. And they live in a mountainous terrain, so they're hiking up and down hills just to go see people and they oftentimes walk. [00:20:16] Speaker B: So all of the movement. [00:20:19] Speaker A: I've been to Sardinia, by the way. Have you? [00:20:22] Speaker B: Well, that's cool. Oh yeah, I remember that story. So this guy is flying to 15s back about, let's go with 20 years ago, and he decides they're going to take an out and back, which is we're going to fly out. We're going to land, we're going to do some stuff, we're going to come back for the day. And he calls and says, yeah, we're taking an out and back. I'm going to go have lunch in Sardinia. I'm home with like kids. [00:20:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. [00:20:50] Speaker B: Well, you have fun with that, buddy. [00:20:52] Speaker A: It was very cold and foggy when we took off from England and I went and had a panini on the beach and picked up a couple bottles of wine and brought them back to you. [00:21:01] Speaker B: Yes, you did. That was very sweet. But he went and saw the sunshine. Oftentimes he would go flying. We were living in the uk, which can historically be very cloudy for portions of the year. And he would go up and he would fly and he would come back and he would say, it's still up there. Like, what? It's still up there. The sun is still up there. I'm like, awesome. It's good to know. I'd like to see it. Seen it in two weeks. But anyway, so Sardinians, they live an active lifestyle. They walk up and down hills to go to church and be with their families and. And down the hills. You know, sometimes down the hills can be harder than up the hills when your knees hurt. [00:21:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:42] Speaker B: You know, but anyway, they, they live an active lifestyle. They are in relation with their, with their families probably more and their community and purpose and whatnot. Driven. But mostly they eat whole food. [00:21:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:56] Speaker B: Which mostly we do not as a nation. Like 57% of the American diet, if I remember right, is of the American adult diet. Diet is ultra processed food. And 67 nearly percent of the children. American children's diet is ultra processed food. We don't eat whole food. There's. [00:22:20] Speaker A: There's a lot of times you'll see varying numbers, but they're in that general range. And for me, it's encouraging that you're seeing a lot of numbers. That means that a lot of different people are looking at this. [00:22:34] Speaker B: Oh, there. [00:22:34] Speaker A: Yeah, a lot of different people. So pick which numbers you want. It's nearly 2/3 of adults are getting their calories from ultra processed foods, and nearly three quarters of children are getting their calories from ultra processed foods. So it's like. [00:22:55] Speaker B: It'S a lot. It's staggering. It really is. We don't eat real food. We eat food like products that come out of boxes created in a factory. [00:23:03] Speaker A: Like the products that we talked about on a podcast a few weeks ago that the companies are making that are getting sued right now in a class action. Lawsuit for purposefully targeting children with foods that are making them sick without any kind of warning labels. [00:23:21] Speaker B: Yep. If you haven't watched heard that podcast, make sure to go back and watch that one about Craft and company and all of the other Pepsi, PepsiCo and all the big. All the big, big food is being sued by a 16 year old. But you mentioned all of the activity that Sardinians and other blue zone type areas. The people get that activity. One of the things that Gary mentioned was sitting and our quest for comfort. He really hammered on sitting. Sitting has become the new smoking as. [00:23:58] Speaker A: Far as health is concerned. [00:23:58] Speaker B: As far as health is concerned. [00:24:00] Speaker A: It is as bad for you. [00:24:01] Speaker B: Right. [00:24:02] Speaker A: Or. [00:24:02] Speaker B: And that, that, that went. Oh, wow. First of all, we live in the Ozarks, so we walk hills every now and then. So I'll call that a bonus. Well, I'll call that a bonus. [00:24:13] Speaker A: You know I chased those ram lambs up and down the hill. [00:24:16] Speaker B: Yes, you did. I couldn't help but you did a fantastic job. Aren't you glad that you get to walk hills a lot? [00:24:25] Speaker A: I do, yeah. Very glad. I should be living to 150. [00:24:29] Speaker B: So sedentary lifestyles are now the leading cause of all cause mortality. Netflix is not helping you. It's not. It may be fun, but sitting is not good for you. [00:24:53] Speaker A: Yeah. The insatiable quest for comfort. Like we, we can't get comfortable enough in every aspect of our lives. And like there's so much that is designed to increase comfort. And the more comfortable we get, the more sedentary we become. [00:25:15] Speaker B: Wow. Well, and that's when we lose muscle. And muscle equals longevity when we sit. I can tell you what happens to a muscle when it doesn't get used. It happens real, real fast. It just goes away. [00:25:28] Speaker A: The body is very good at recycling materials. [00:25:31] Speaker B: Right. [00:25:32] Speaker A: And if it's not being used, it'll take all of the building blocks from that thing and go use it somewhere else. [00:25:38] Speaker B: Yeah, my leg shrank really, really, really fast. And it takes days. [00:25:42] Speaker A: It was a matter of days and. [00:25:44] Speaker B: That it was like shrunk up. It was crazy. And. But it takes weeks and months to build it back, to build that back up. And I'm dedicated to doing that. If a person isn't, then they're just going to have to do without it. [00:25:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:57] Speaker B: Until they become so frail. But here's the thing. Muscle equals longevity. One you can get up and move about. And the Sardinians and other blue zones are proving that moving is keeping you alive. But it also helps muscle more muscle mass. We have, the better we regulate our blood sugar and the better we regulate our blood sugar, the less stress our body is under, the less inflammation we have, the less oxidative stress. And so just having muscle mass, it literally can increase your years. So is there a way that we can keep muscle mass into our 90s move? Just keep moving, put weight on, you bear weight, stand up, walk about. [00:26:45] Speaker A: Yep. [00:26:46] Speaker B: And do things. Yeah. So back to Sardinius. The, the steeper it turned out, the steeper the slope, the longer that they lived. That's crazy. [00:26:58] Speaker A: Isn't that interesting, man? [00:27:01] Speaker B: So, you know, stop riding the escalators and just walk up the stairs, you know? [00:27:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:05] Speaker B: That kind of deal. So then industrial health complex and their business model through things like statins and cholesterol and what they say will keep us healthy and alive is I've kind of become man, if they say go left, I'm going right, you know, like genuinely. Because if they say that it's healthy or if big food says that it's healthy or if big ag says that it's okay or any. I'm, I'm my head to look at. [00:27:45] Speaker A: Big food for a moment. Well, I'll just pull one out. Okay, let's look at big food for a moment. The products that are marketed as healthy are ultra processed. Nobody is marketing ground beef as healthy. [00:28:07] Speaker B: No, they vilify it. [00:28:08] Speaker A: It doesn't have a, a sticker on it that says healthy or heart healthy or any of these things. Broccoli. I, I picked up some organic broccoli from the store the other day and I don't remember any advertisement signs, indications on the packaging. Nowhere that it was healthy. There wasn't a little heart on it. There wasn't an, you know, American Diabetes association recommendation. [00:28:40] Speaker B: No association. There was nothing on the front of it. [00:28:43] Speaker A: No, you have to go to the ultra processed foods to find that. [00:28:51] Speaker B: And that's what Americans are led to believe is going to give them health. And it's wrecking our bodies. [00:28:59] Speaker A: Right. [00:29:00] Speaker B: Just genuinely wrecking them. [00:29:02] Speaker A: So we talked about the food. Let's look at one of the, the health issues. [00:29:08] Speaker B: Okay. [00:29:09] Speaker A: And we'll look, we'll just pick out not even total cholesterol, just pick out ldl, the low density lipoprotein. [00:29:17] Speaker B: That's fine. [00:29:18] Speaker A: And we are, we. It has become absolutely vilified. And for a few decades now there's been this drive to get cholesterol lower and lower and lower and lower. [00:29:36] Speaker B: And the brain requires cholesterol, the body requires cholesterol, the body makes cholesterol. Cholesterol is not the villain in the story. [00:29:46] Speaker A: The way Gary describes it is making cholesterol the villain of the story is like it is akin to saying we need to get rid of all firefighters. If we got rid of all firefighters, we would just have less fire. [00:30:04] Speaker B: Because every time you go to a fire, there's firefighters. [00:30:06] Speaker A: Right. So if we just got rid of firefighters, we would have less fires. We, you know, we could do away. [00:30:13] Speaker B: With a really great analogy. [00:30:14] Speaker A: We could do away with fires if we just did away with those firefighters. [00:30:18] Speaker B: So cholesterol being the firefighter, trying to fix the problem by trying to get rid of the firefighters, the problem is still there. [00:30:30] Speaker A: Right. [00:30:31] Speaker B: The problem is probably continuing to amplify throughout your entire system through oxidative stress. [00:30:39] Speaker A: Yeah. So. And the biggest issue with cholesterol. Right. Is in your arteries. [00:30:44] Speaker B: Sure. [00:30:45] Speaker A: And what ends up happening? [00:30:46] Speaker B: Cardiovascular disease. [00:30:48] Speaker A: Yeah. So the things, these ultra processed foods, the seed oils, the things that we're eating that are ultra inflammatory cause inflammation inside our arteries. They cause little tears. Cholesterol comes in and fixes it. [00:31:02] Speaker B: Cholesterol is not the enemy. [00:31:04] Speaker A: But cholesterol does start building up. The fixes do start. If you put a band aid on top of a band aid on top of a band aid and you don't ever fix what's causing the issue in the first place. The ultra processed food, the ultra processed foods causing the inflammation. Right. Like if all you say is stop putting band aids on. [00:31:28] Speaker B: Right. [00:31:29] Speaker A: Right. That's all you're saying. [00:31:30] Speaker B: Right. [00:31:31] Speaker A: When you say get rid of the cholesterol, you're saying, stop putting band aids on these micro tears in your arteries. [00:31:37] Speaker B: So the medical system, instead of saying, let's get rid of the. Let's get rid of the actual problem. Let's put the fire out through lifestyle changes. Here's a statin. [00:31:50] Speaker A: Right. [00:31:50] Speaker B: Well, that's, that's gonna. That statin is probably going to be somewhat successful in lowering the cholesterol in your body, but it's also got the few consequences and side effects to it that are going to lead to a faster downhill decline than you would have. Well, let's just talk about. There's going to be joint inflammation, hormone disruption. What else does it cause? Oh, mental degradation. So cognitive decline is effect. Statins affect your actual mental acuity because your body needs, your brain needs cholesterol. And fat. [00:32:38] Speaker A: It's made up of cholesterol. [00:32:40] Speaker B: Yeah. So just with one myth of cholesterol being the bad guy, the ldl, as you spoke about, just with that one thing, they have a they have multiple things now happening. They got patient again for life when the statin is not even helping with the problem. How many, I, I don't know the statistic, how many people on statin still have cardiovascular event? [00:33:10] Speaker A: Yeah, it'd be interesting to see, but the, the LDL cholesterol going back to Gary Breca and the blue zones, they find that the majority, vast majority, if not all of these centenarians have clinically elevated ldl. [00:33:31] Speaker B: That's so interesting. So the higher your ldl, the longer you live in these places. [00:33:37] Speaker A: This, these particular studies are showing. Right. [00:33:41] Speaker B: Like there's, I get the wording. [00:33:43] Speaker A: Here's where we get into, you know, as soon as you start saying things like this, the medical complex, the, the big pharma, you're going to become vilified and there's going to be studies that they pay for that are going to prove how you're wrong. Right, Right. So like you have to be careful where you're getting the information and I get that. But they are finding that these blue zones with their centenarians, people over 100 years old, are, are having clinically elevated LDL. [00:34:14] Speaker B: And when you say clinically elevated, that is a number higher than clinically and it keeps changing. Oh, got it. [00:34:25] Speaker A: Right. [00:34:26] Speaker B: Like how high is too high? [00:34:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:28] Speaker B: What's what clinically? In the United States, when you go to the doctor, if your cholesterol is above X, that would be clinically elevated. [00:34:41] Speaker A: Right. [00:34:41] Speaker B: So. But that number changes with whatever they. [00:34:45] Speaker A: Decide, I guess each year it seems to be getting lower. [00:34:49] Speaker B: Well, I have high cholesterol. [00:34:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:51] Speaker B: I'm sure. I don't even care. Yeah. Again, we're not doctors. They're just talking to you about, you know, studies that happen in other parts of the world also. Wow. Hey, here was an interesting, interesting one that he brought up talking about the medical establishment that it has been reported in some places. It has been said that medical error is the number three cause of death in this country. [00:35:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a 2016 study. It's been often re quoted Johns Hopkins study and you'll find it quoted 2018, 2020. There's another study in 2023, I think it was, that said. No, that's not true. It's not the third leading cause of death. There were books written on it in 2015. Why is, why has it become medical error become the third leading cause of death? So there's something there again, Right? Like is it the third? I don't know. There's a study that says that it's, it's up there. There's something going on. And third, behind cardiovascular disease is number one, cancer number two, and then medical error being number three. There. There is something there, sure. [00:36:21] Speaker B: Whether the statistic is 100 true or not, you do have to question what in the world's going on, you know, and again, we are not like anti medicine people or anti medical people, but. But the medical establishment right now is definitely under question with their motives. I just don't feel like they have our best interest at heart. Every day it does begin to feel like we are being taken advantage of at every level when it comes to honestly, agriculture, food and medicine, they're all linked. And I feel like the American people, they're killing us and we're allowing it. And the only way that we're going to be able to stop it is to take back control of our own lives. We're the only ones who are going care about ourselves the most. Like they don't care. [00:37:17] Speaker A: I will take you back to. We spend more money than any other nation and our life expectancy is lower. [00:37:26] Speaker B: Something's wrong. [00:37:27] Speaker A: Something's wrong. [00:37:28] Speaker B: Yeah. So what can we do? [00:37:37] Speaker A: You know, eat whole food and move, get up. [00:37:40] Speaker B: So it's really just that simple? [00:37:42] Speaker A: It's really just that simple. For us, ketogenic lifestyle is the way we. We like to operate our body being fueled by ketones. I love the mental clarity. I love the fact that I don't feel hungry. Like, there are side effects of being in ketosis that I really like. I don't think that's the only answer. [00:38:04] Speaker B: No. [00:38:04] Speaker A: I think it has a ton of benefits. But if. If what you're looking for is longevity, I think that the studies would point you towards eat whole food and get up, move your. Move your body. [00:38:19] Speaker B: Right. Eggs, butter, vegetables, beef. Eat more beef, for crying out loud. Eat real meat. You know, eat the best food that you can buy. You don't have to eat at a bazillion calories. So you can buy a pound of ground beef even if it costs you $12. Cut that thing in half. Half. Have a half a pound of beef, a slab of butter on top of it, and a glass of milk and call it a meal. [00:38:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:52] Speaker B: You know, especially raw milk. Right. And you got six bucks in the thing. You cannot go to a fast food restaurant and eat much of anything on $6 anymore. So the point is we can go back to like our great grandparents ate. You know, I was eating a meal the other day and like, I think my great great grandparents definitely would have eaten this it was eggs and some butter and I don't know, there might have been some cheese in it or some ground pork or something, but it was all just food. That and salt and pepper and they had those spices, then they had that food, then they ate that way. And I feel like if we could get back to. Did your great grandmother eat that? No, because they didn't have Cheetos back then. Then don't eat it. Yeah, let's go back. [00:39:44] Speaker A: RFK Jr. Put out a little thing recently that was very good. It was along those lines, eat beef, eat butter. He listed, like, these things, Stop eating sugar, get up and move. Do this for 30 days. Let me know, you'll thank me, you know, kind of thing, right? [00:39:59] Speaker B: Yeah. That's great. Yeah, yeah, it's true. [00:40:02] Speaker A: Your body will thank me or something like that. [00:40:03] Speaker B: The medical establishment, the diet world, all of the people with not your best interest in mind, but their wallets for sure, will tell you a whole bunch of other things. And yet it's just so simple. Just so simple. Eat real food and get up and move. [00:40:21] Speaker A: And then, I mean, there are, there are things that you can do. Like we mentioned D3, and there are things that you can do if you have the symptoms of a vitamin D deficiency or if you have blood work done and you know, you have low vitamin D. There are things that you can eat and do. Go outside, eat, get some sun on your body, eat some liver. You know, I mean, like, there are, there are things, even if you have to take it in a pill form because you can't stand it, grind it up with your ground beef so you can't taste it. Like, there are things that you can do that. It doesn't have to be y'all. We have some vitamin D supplements, we have some vitamin B12 supplements. I, after listening to this podcast with Gary Breca, I went and I grabbed our supplements and I turned them around and looked on the back side of them. All of them have vegetable oil, every one of them. And they're not wrapped in like a. It's not a capsule. No, I mean, like the ones I've been taking are a sublingual. So you sort, you just chew it up, right? It's like a powder and it's got vegetable oil in it. And the, the B12 is the kind of B12 that is a cyanide based B12. So, like, it's tiny. It's tiny. Psycho. It's fine, right? For how long? [00:41:52] Speaker B: Right? [00:41:53] Speaker A: How long are you going to allow tiny amounts of cyanide to build up in your body before it becomes an issue. [00:41:59] Speaker B: Right. So what do you do? And we sat there eating breakfast the other day, and I'm like, okay, fine, well, stop taking those supplements. Where are we going to get those vitamins in the natural world? Where can we supply our body with what it needs by food that we eat? And not. They did. My great grandmother did not have supplements. Right, right, right. Yours didn't either. And they ate real food. So I got to looking, talking with chat GPT like, okay, where can we find this and this and this and go look it up. You can put it, you know, in the. Whatever. Tell people what to. What to eat. But the, the point was it listed out the. [00:42:43] Speaker A: That's an exhaust. Like, that's. [00:42:44] Speaker B: Tell people what to eat. [00:42:46] Speaker A: Like, I can't do that. We. We may be able to do some things. We've mentioned air to ground, thrive before. We may be able to put some stuff together with thrive. [00:42:53] Speaker B: Right. That just points people in the direction of what are the foods that I could consume that gets me to within the recommended amount for my body. [00:43:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Not surprising to me. Raw milk has a lot of a lot. [00:43:09] Speaker B: Yeah. But pasteurized milk does not have a lot. [00:43:13] Speaker A: No, pasteurized milk doesn't have a lot of a lot. [00:43:15] Speaker B: No, it doesn't. [00:43:17] Speaker A: It. Organ meat is huge. [00:43:20] Speaker B: Of course. Yeah. Anyway, so the, the point is we can get the vitamins from the sun and from real food. Our bodies were designed to take that up in that way. And Gary really hits on that. [00:43:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Local. Local food. Find a farmer. Are they growing it? It's like, for the most part, it's probably fine. It's good for you. Eat that. [00:43:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:52] Speaker A: You know, you may want to question whether or not they spray something with glyphosate. [00:43:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't want that. [00:43:57] Speaker A: Right. Like, do you spray poison all over your property? All right, I'll pass. [00:44:03] Speaker B: Right. [00:44:03] Speaker A: And. And some farmers do. [00:44:05] Speaker B: Right. [00:44:05] Speaker A: Like, that's fine. But I would probably pass on that. You know, find a. Find a regenerative farmer that's not spraying their property with all kinds of poisons and eat. Eat that. [00:44:18] Speaker B: Sure. [00:44:18] Speaker A: Like, whatever it is. [00:44:20] Speaker B: And the last thing is, look, the reality is no one's going to come and save you. They're not. They're not going to come and save me. No one's going to come and save you. We're going to have to do this ourselves. We're going to have to figure this out. [00:44:39] Speaker A: Yeah. If you, if you look at the commercials, they're all here to save you. Every new drug has got a cute little jingle about how they're here to save you. [00:44:58] Speaker B: It's true. [00:44:59] Speaker A: If you just sit and receive information that the mainstream is giving you, you would question that statement. You would say, I don't think that's true. I think all of these medicines are here to save me. Just look, it would be an interesting thing to sit down in a typical one hour or two hour television watching session, you know, like figure out what the standard or the average person watches on, you know, length of time on television and then pick, I don't know, five or ten different channels and then start keeping track of all of the pharmaceutical commercials that you're exposed to. [00:45:40] Speaker B: It's a lot. [00:45:41] Speaker A: Go pharmaceutical commercials and ultra processed or fast foods. Right. Watch what happens. And, and that's where, you know the. It is not common wisdom what you're saying. Common wisdom is they're all out to save you. [00:45:58] Speaker B: But as you mentioned, logic. Because we're spending more than we've ever spent in any other country in the world and we're dying sooner. [00:46:08] Speaker A: Right. [00:46:08] Speaker B: So it sounds like what they're doing and trying to save us is not in fact working. [00:46:14] Speaker A: It is not working. [00:46:15] Speaker B: It is not. And back to my point, they're not going to save us. We're going to have to do this ourselves. We're going to have to go what they call like grassroots. We're going to have to just take care of it ourselves. [00:46:28] Speaker A: Right? [00:46:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's what we're here, that's what we're all about. Let's do it ourselves. A little bit of self reliance to create a little bit more freedom for ourselves. [00:46:36] Speaker A: Maybe some policies change, but maybe they do. I don't think on a, on an individual level, you should not be waiting on policy changes. Right. On an individual level, you should take care of yourself, buy yourself some real food and get up. [00:46:51] Speaker B: I agree. Well put. That was really good. So we encourage you to go check out that really long podcast, but it is so packed full of. We touched on a little bit of the information that Gary and Ryan talk about in the podcast. If we hear something, see something, read something that we think that our audience could benefit from, that's what we try to do. Research it, listen to it, and then pass it on to you guys and then go educate yourselves on how we can all live a better, longer, longer thriving life. Right? [00:47:31] Speaker A: Yep. [00:47:32] Speaker B: We appreciate you guys hanging out with us again today here and we look forward to seeing you in the next one. And know what? We can do this. We can take care of ourselves, y'all. [00:47:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Look forward to seeing you over on. [00:47:45] Speaker B: Patreon also, and until next time. Bye, y'all. [00:47:48] Speaker A: Bye, y'all.