Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: We find ourselves in this TV show.
[00:00:03] Speaker B: It's quite funny.
[00:00:04] Speaker A: It is so funny.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: Some 61 year old millionaire came and bought our farm. Mikayla would just be like, that is not how you do this.
Which is what Caleb does with Jeremy.
[00:00:17] Speaker A: Often farming is glamorized.
You know, farming is made to feel like it's, it's so serene.
An unsuspecting hero is emerging in the farming community and we discovered it about four nights ago on Amazon prime whenever we just happened to click on Clarkson's farm and we're immediately hooked. Welcome to the Dust or Mud podcast. I'm Shelley and I'm rich. After 25 years of rich being in the air Force, flying airplanes, knowing nothing about farming, we sold out, moved to the middle of Missouri and started doing something that we have never done before. We've never farmed. We are from a farming community, but we don't have any real understanding every day of what it took in order to create what we're doing right now. And we found someone on TV who was like living out our story.
[00:01:19] Speaker B: It's so funny to watch him.
[00:01:21] Speaker C: It's.
[00:01:21] Speaker B: There are so many parallels to when we first started farming. Watching his, you know, season one is his initial foray into the farm and we laughed.
[00:01:33] Speaker A: So if you haven't heard of it, it's called Clarkson's Farm and his name is Jeremy Clarkson. He is a TV celebrity. He's. He does who Wants to Be a Millionaire? He was, he's famous for being one of the presenters on Top Gear, which is probably where he's most famously known.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: In the uk.
[00:01:53] Speaker A: In the uk, yes. Totally British dude.
And in a little backstory. So in 2019 he decides to start farming the farm that he owned but was previously being leased by another farmer and he was farming it. Well, when this dude decides to quit farming, Jeremy says, well, farm said much.
[00:02:18] Speaker B: Like in 2021 when we said we, we just want to grow our own food, I think we could do this. We'll do it ourselves.
[00:02:25] Speaker A: We'll just do this ourselves. You know, we like good beef, we like good pork and chicken and we want things that are grown regeneratively organic, all this stuff, and we'll just do it ourselves.
We find ourselves in this TV show.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: It's quite funny.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: It is so funny. And that is probably one of the things that I love about it the most is it is hilarious because he is just quite a character and so are some of the other actors on the show or not actors. I guess. This is a real life, guys. It's almost like a mega farming YouTube channel because it's so.
[00:03:05] Speaker B: It's presented, it's directed, it's published. Well, sure, I mean like so feels more like you're watching a show, but yet it's like YouTube in that it's showing the pains and the trials and you know, it's just a dude trying to learn how to do farming.
[00:03:23] Speaker A: Right. But interesting thing to us is that you have a celebrity here who doesn't have to be doing this, who has taken on this behemoth of a project to learn how to do something in his 60s that he's never done before because the world's got problems. And the cool thing is he has taken his platform in being a celebrity and he is.
Maybe it's on purpose. Maybe it wasn't at first, but inadvertently and now I think quite on purpose. He's pulling back the curtain on a lot of the truths behind farming and growing food in a first world country and the problems that arise out of it.
Not just whether or not you know how to operate your tractor.
[00:04:15] Speaker B: He bought a Lamborghini tractor, y'.
[00:04:17] Speaker C: All.
[00:04:17] Speaker A: Of course he did.
He's a gearhead and he has a lot of money, but he doesn't have all of the know how. So he has a lot of money, but he doesn't know how to do things.
The, the second interesting character is a real life person named Caleb Cooper who is a 21 year old young little.
[00:04:39] Speaker B: Season one, season one.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: There are four seasons now.
There's this 21 year old. He calls him a fetus of a, of a, of a little farmer who does know things.
Like he knows how to run these tractors.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: Well, he knows how to farm that farm. He worked on that farm.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: Oh really?
[00:04:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: Oh, so he actually worked that farm before?
[00:05:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: So this kid is coming alongside this older dude and teaching him in the most hilarious ways how to actually grow food on this land.
And so Caleb is.
To me, don't you think Caleb is a little spark of hope?
[00:05:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:05:31] Speaker B: Oh yeah, for sure.
[00:05:34] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: Like where, where I see Caleb in, in us and our farm is probably Michaela.
You know, she was nine when we moved here. So by the time she's 21, she's. I mean, she don't know how to run everything around here.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: Right.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: So you know, were we to pass it on or something if some 61 year old millionaire came about our farm?
[00:06:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:02] Speaker B: Michaela would just be like, that is not how you do this.
And which is what Caleb does with Jeremy often. You know, you really messed this up.
[00:06:12] Speaker A: Yeah, you really messed this up now. I will. There's a little.
There's a little side caveat they. They do. There's some harsh language in it. They live in England and it's quite funny. So, you know, know, you just have to be. Understand that and be careful of that as far as, like, watching the show with your kids.
But the things that he has faces. Has faced.
Wait, another fun character. His name is Charlie.
And I keep saying character, but they're really real people.
But it's so entertaining that it almost feels that way. But Charlie, he's affectionately known as Cheerful Charlie, but Charlie is a. He's a land manager and he's an ag guy. He really knows the ins and outs of the agriculture business.
And he brings Jeremy all of the wonderful news that farmers and business people get things like, you can't afford that. You can't do that. The regulations, the restrictions on what.
On what Clarkson farm is allowed, allowed to do, able to do, and, you know, was kind of screwing up.
Just like seems like every day when.
[00:07:28] Speaker B: When we met Cheerful Charlie, I'm like, man, we need somebody like that.
[00:07:32] Speaker A: We do that.
[00:07:33] Speaker B: Knows the ins and outs and how to ask for grants and, you know, what forms to fill out and what the rules and regulations are, can and can't do.
[00:07:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:07:42] Speaker B: You know, keep yourself out of trouble kind of thing.
[00:07:45] Speaker A: Yeah, all the trouble.
Right.
[00:07:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:07:48] Speaker A: There's so much trouble.
Well, I mean, even like when he got sheep, my goodness, there's just all of the. We call them, you know, don't, don't, don't Clarkson that up. You know, it's a. It's almost a verb at this point here, because, you know, when we got sheep, it was similar, like, okay, we're going to get sheep. And do you know what to do with sheep? No, you know, no, we don't, but we're going to learn as fast as we can. I wish we had had the people around us that he does that are teaching him how to, you know, actually care for them rather than just trial by error, which, I mean, he's.
[00:08:29] Speaker B: It works, too.
[00:08:29] Speaker A: It works. It does. It does.
Yeah. So they're teaching him how. He's learning how to farm.
He's actually showing the side of the farming that is.
Often farming is glamorized.
Farming is made to feel like it's so serene.
[00:08:59] Speaker B: Well, it's both. Right.
You often hear the word bucolic or serene, and there's this picture of the red barn with the rooster crowing and the sun's rising and Maybe a haystack over here or something. And there is that picture. But then there's also the dumb farmer, not smart enough to go to school obviously.
So there's almost this dichotomy between this picture of what a farm is and the sort of looking down on the person, the farmer, and so sort of opening the door in a.
Like his platform is huge. Right. He's so famous that he's really opening the door to the whole thing.
He does have the thousand acre, beautiful former, you know, estate.
But yet the, you know, his count counsel is telling him no.
[00:10:15] Speaker A: Yeah, multimillionaire being told no, you can't build a restaurant in an older barn.
Like why now he did get those things changed.
[00:10:27] Speaker B: You can't put in a, you can't put in a farm store.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: Sorry, why, why? Why? Because the, the rules and the regulations.
[00:10:36] Speaker B: Finally he's able to put in a farm store, but he put pineapples in it and they weren't grown there. And I mean it's just like.
[00:10:42] Speaker A: Right.
[00:10:43] Speaker B: Good grief.
[00:10:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
The struggles that come with trying to grow and produce and sell food in a first world country is it's, it's phenomenal.
[00:10:58] Speaker B: So immediately I thought with us of the raw milk and raw milk sales in our country, the federal government, you can't sell raw milk across state lines because that's illegal federally, like it's a drug.
And every state has different rules. In our state it's like, well, you can sell the raw milk but only from your farm. Or you could deliver it, but you can't have a drop off point. And you can sell milk or cream, but if you shake the cream and turn it into butter that now it's adulterated and you can't sell that. And it's like just all of this, it's bureaucratic crap. It's butter.
[00:11:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it is, it's butter. You know, we've been doing that for a long time.
[00:11:45] Speaker B: What are you talking about?
[00:11:46] Speaker A: Yeah, and like what meat can you sell and to whom can you sell it? You get the differences between like, like custom processing. I could sell you the thing, the animal and you can go get it processed or I can drop it off and you can have it processed, but you have to own it. But if I have it butchered, same meat, I, if I have it butchered, I can't sell it by the cut. If it's cut like that, under that exemption. That's a big no, no, no.
[00:12:14] Speaker B: But I could, I could give it to you, which means it's not a health issue. It's not a safety issue because in that case I wouldn't even be able to give it to you.
[00:12:22] Speaker C: Right.
[00:12:23] Speaker B: It would be like it would be illegal to do anything with this. But that's not true. I just can't sell it. I can give it away, I can donate it.
I could give you some, but I can't sell you some. And it's just like all of the behind the scenes rules and the regulations involved in it that typically just sort of, I think the people doing the farming, it's just sort of, everybody knows it.
[00:12:51] Speaker C: Right.
[00:12:51] Speaker B: And so there's not, it's just understood. There's not a whole lot of spotlight shown on. This is ridiculous.
Some of our congressmen like the Prime Act. There are some out there that are talking about it. And it happened especially as a result of the pandemic. And as things started shutting down, you start to see how fragile a food system with this many rules and regulations can be. So they've, they're trying at least with some, with some bills and acts, there are mumbles, there are mumbles to try to make things better. You know, the, I think retail sales of raw milk in the state of Missouri has been on the docket in the Missouri House for, I don't know, four or five years. The Senate has some different. Missouri Senate has some different version that's been there for a couple of years. But like it's not moving forward, right?
[00:13:48] Speaker C: No.
[00:13:50] Speaker A: The fact that you have a regular person who's been out there doing a not farming, not agricultural career decides they want to get into it and watching him on TV just go through that, no, you can't do that. No, you can't do that. No, you can't do that.
It really is just quite eye opening to, it should be quite eye opening to the regular person about why your food is the way that it is. It's because to do it any other way is both very expensive, it's difficult and the regulations might not even allow for it. You know, the expense. I mean, he's finding out, my goodness, you know, not only with the expenses but the like equipment failures and learning how to drive things and hook up trailers and things breaking in the middle of a project. Whenever you're trying, they're trying to get crops in the, in from the field and things just going crazy. Or how about bad weather, you know.
You know, he's dealing with the realities of a drought and floods all in like the first year of his farming. And we have to. And so do so many other farmers you know, and the show puts a.
[00:15:07] Speaker B: Real face on that.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:09] Speaker B: And, you know, sometimes it just becomes another weather event, you know, and when you. When there's a face on it. And the reality of the impact of things like that, I think, are.
It's an interesting thing.
You know, his sheep got out, like, day one.
He separated cows. They got out, you know, and it's like those types of things that, I don't know, you just don't always hear, see or hear about in the farming unless you're doing it, I guess, you know, you just don't always hear about it.
I came home one day, and the neighbor's bull was in our pasture fighting with our bull. I'm like, great.
[00:15:59] Speaker A: Oh, my God. I'm by myself. What am I gonna do?
What?
Yeah.
[00:16:06] Speaker B: And it wasn't long before my bull and a steer were then in the neighbor's pasture, just like.
And then me and Michaela went and fixed it.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: I think I was on crutches at the time.
Of no help, he discovers that the.
The financial part of it is. Is. Is quite a problem as well, because he.
He starts out with this. This land that has been being conventionally farmed with a lot of cereals and barley, wheat and some canola.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: Canola and corn.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: And they're not.
Maybe not corn. Rapeseed, grapeseed. Yeah. And so a lot of. A lot of that. But he's. He's learned about some techniques, such as bringing in livestock and ruminant animals to regenerate the land and make the soil better. So he's wanting to do things in a different way than has been done on the property. And his eyes have kind of been open to the problem in our soil and in agriculture and the monocropping. So he's trying to add this diversity and do things right.
And every time he does something, I swear, every time he loses money.
[00:17:35] Speaker B: Well, at first, it's the. The initial cost.
And, you know, he's, in my opinion, graciously talking about the. The cost and to buy this tractor and this piece of equipment and this trailer and this thing and, like, all of the things that he's buying and. And the costs, especially in season one, really, they take it through, like, one farming season.
And the outlay, that initial outlay, there's £10,000 for this and £20,000 for that and thousands and thousands. And the thousands just keep racking up. And at the end of it, he's put literally millions in, which he has and can do. Yeah. But at the bottom line, when it Comes down to how much profit did you make?
It was £144 after all of that.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: And all of the production and all of the grains and all of everything.
[00:18:29] Speaker B: Which is equivalent to like $180.
[00:18:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:33] Speaker B: His profit, that was his annual.
And we're like, Yep.
And we've done podcasts on that about, you know, the average or the median farm income in the United States of America is negative like $890.
[00:18:52] Speaker C: So.
[00:18:54] Speaker B: The majority or at least half are making less money than negative $890.
[00:19:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:04] Speaker A: So he is. I mean, maybe it's accidentally. I mean it's super funny, but maybe it's accidentally, maybe it's on purpose. But he is really putting things out there and pulling back the curtain on the realities of trying to grow good food the right way. And he's having a huge impact though, because this show is. And his voice and his platform and the way that they're presenting this because they've seen a 193% roughly increase in their beef sales in the UK, right. Like people wanting to buy good and eat good meat again.
[00:19:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:47] Speaker B: There's been a 20% rise in agricultural student applications in the UK.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: That is the most important part to me is that you have turned on the light in some young people's eyes to be wanting to get into farming in a way that it, because they're young people are really affected by the concept of what is going on with our planet, what is going on with the soil, doing things that aren't so damaging, you know, with, with mono cropping or doing things the way that they've always been done. Maybe there's a better way to do it rather than just plant spray, spray plants, plant spray. You know, don't forget till. Oh, till, till, till. And so with, with these young people, they're, they're really much more sensitive than we are as Gen Xers who preferably don't care about things, you know, or stereotypically don't care, I guess. And so with these young people. I was just having a conversation with Michaela the other day and she doesn't care for country music of which we like, she doesn't like it. She's not a, she's, she's not a country dressing person. She's more of a, I don't know, hippie, grunge person, you know, type of, you know, attire.
[00:21:17] Speaker B: Mikayla's our 13 year old daughter.
[00:21:18] Speaker A: That's our 13 year old daughter who we hope wants to be a farmer someday. We really do. After she goes and does whatever she's going to do, be a fighter pilot or whatever.
So we hope, though, she wants to grow food one day. And we were having a conversation about country music and farming, and she, she. So it was so cute. She says, well, I'm kind of like Spider man when it comes to farming. I'm like, I don't know what you mean.
What she meant was she. Her normal self is Peter Parker.
You know, that's who she is.
Or maybe she's Peter Parker on the farm, and when she goes out there, she's like Spider Man. She's kind of. I'm not sure which, but she just meant that people around town don't know she farms because the way she dresses, the way she acts, you know, super fun. She just. She doesn't wear cowboy boots. She doesn't wear Wrangler jeans, and she doesn't wear a cowboy hat or anything. She's not a, you know, that type of farming person.
But she does enjoy it. And I told her, I'm like, you know, a lot of young people are farming, you know, in an organic way or a regenerative way, and they don't wear cowboy boots and they don't want to, you know, they just want to grow good food.
[00:22:38] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:39] Speaker A: You can dress however you want to dress and be who you really are and still want to grow good food and not have to be the stereotypical, you know, overall wearing cowboy boot, wearing farmer.
[00:22:54] Speaker C: Right.
[00:22:54] Speaker B: Nothing wrong with that. But that's not required.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: But it's not required. Like, if that's what's required for me to do this job, I don't want. I'm not.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: That's not me. So obviously I can't be a farmer.
[00:23:03] Speaker A: Yeah, no, let's. Let's debunk that. And I think Caleb helps with that in the, in the show. And hearing that it has affected people with what they want to go do and at college is really, really encouraging. Yeah, because we need more farmers, young ones, because they're all. Everybody's getting old.
[00:23:25] Speaker B: And that's. I mean, that's part of why we do this.
The podcast, the YouTube channel, even spending hours and hours talking to people at the store or doing farm tours is really trying to. Trying to pull back that curtain to say, here's actually what's going on. Here's what's involved in growing food in a regenerative manner. Like, not just a green washed, you know, I only spray a little bit. But like, for real, like, this is. This is how you do it. And here's here's some of the pitfalls, and here's some of the good things, and here's the end product. And I mean, you know, like, we're trying to just sort of show.
I mean, obviously we don't have the voice or the platform that Jeremy does, but like, at the ozark next level. Yeah, you know, we're trying to.
Trying to do that same time.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: We get that. We get asked all the time. So did you. I mean, do you guys. Did you guys know how to farm before you started doing all of this?
[00:24:23] Speaker C: No.
[00:24:24] Speaker A: No, we didn't. We just said we think we can do that too, and started learning. You know, he has some people who know what they're doing and mentoring him and showing him physically what to do. We didn't really have that per se, but YouTube is huge, you know.
[00:24:42] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:43] Speaker A: Great education on YouTube. Books, books, books, podcasts, listening. And the number one way that you learn how to do anything is through experience and get the thing and do the thing. Drive the tractor. Yeah, right.
[00:24:59] Speaker B: And. And I mean, like, take our sheep. Sometimes it's costly as, you know, as you're learning how to.
How to do something, sometimes you have failures. And, you know, in adult life, a lot of times failures have a dollar.
[00:25:13] Speaker A: Sign attached most of the time, one way or another.
And, you know, and he's semi out there kind of by himself learning how to do this. And we've kind of felt that sometimes too. Yeah, you know, we're. We're doing something that is not what your people go do. You know, the people, your colleagues are flying airplanes or working in the defense industry, doing some sort of, you know, defense contract type of things, working for large corporations who build things.
[00:25:50] Speaker B: And we decided, as I told the undersecretary of the Air Force I was retiring, to go farm.
What?
[00:25:58] Speaker A: Right, I'm going to go farm because it's important.
You know, all of these things are important over here, but this, you know, we got to be able to eat, you know, we got to have good food. And that's one of the things that Jeremy is. Is really putting out there and really showing people in an honest, truthful, raw as polished. I mean, it's a show, you know, but it is, it is quite raw in what's really happening and what does happen on a farm.
One thing that we talk about in production of food is do we have enough? And what happens if you have rich terms it catastrophic success?
Well, what if we turn on our website and put a YouTube video out there and then somebody. I mean, we Just run it completely out of product or we don't have enough boxes to ship all of the shipments or whatever, and we'll deal with that if that happens for sure. But he invites on his Twitter, at the time before it was X, he invites all of his 7.5 million followers to his farm shop at Diddly Squat Farm. And he experienced catastrophic success with a three mile.
[00:27:24] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:24] Speaker A: Backup in traffic through their little British town.
Oh, yeah. It was quite a. It was.
It was quite a ordeal, but he made it through it.
[00:27:37] Speaker C: He did.
[00:27:37] Speaker A: He did.
Yeah. The thing that, you know, the errors that we make in.
In judgment in trying to figure out how can we get this message out that I have some potatoes to sell, you know, or I. I now have chicken breast or we have some ground beef, you know, we don't have a million pounds of ground beef, but we have some ground beef and we would like to sell it. How do we tell everyone, you know? And so learning the marketing side of farming, too.
[00:28:05] Speaker C: Yeah, that.
[00:28:06] Speaker B: That was interesting. I was very nervous when we first turned on our online store, because at that point we had some pork, I think, was all we had.
[00:28:17] Speaker A: Pretty much. I think so.
[00:28:18] Speaker B: And just the. The thought that maybe we would run out or, you know, that there would be orders that came in that we couldn't fulfill. And that was the furthest thing from the truth of what happened. Like.
[00:28:34] Speaker A: Like nothing happened.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: Like nothing happened. I turned it on and nothing happened.
[00:28:38] Speaker A: He opened his shop and nothing happened.
[00:28:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:41] Speaker A: And then he said, well, I'll put it on Twitter.
[00:28:45] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:45] Speaker A: And he did. And all.
They all came, like, all of his fans, you know, that's what you do anyway, if y' all want to buy us out, buy us out.
I'm like, all kinds of over that fear.
Come get it.
And he's not real preachy either. And we try not. We try not to be preachy. We might get that way. But he's super. Like, he's pretty much just showing.
[00:29:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:29:13] Speaker B: I don't feel like at all he's trying to say that something should be done in some way, or it's just a, here's what I'm dealing with. I want to do this. And he has all kinds of ideas, and he has his ideas and then he does them and they succeed or fail. Right. And it's not.
I don't get the feeling at all that it's the.
You should be or you shouldn't be or, you know, there's none.
[00:29:39] Speaker C: There's none of that.
[00:29:43] Speaker A: Watching the impact and hearing about the impact of like, what happens when people choose to do the really hard stuff, you know, and show the really hard stuff is it's inspiring to see that the show is having an effect.
England's going huge regenerative.
They're way ahead of us in pushing the regenerative model with their farmers and with some of their grocery stores are actually getting involved with that as well and wanting to purchase and do contracts with regenerative farmers.
[00:30:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:29] Speaker B: I don't know. We've talked about it before.
I think that the word regenerative is becoming greenwashed, just like organic did. And I think you end up with big, huge corporations and companies saying things, and it not necessarily meaning exactly what people think. So I love, obviously the fact that there's a push towards regenerative, but there's no definition even of what it is.
So anybody can say that they are it. And I think the more that the big companies say that they're regenerative, the less impactful it makes the small folks like us actually doing regenerative. You know, and we talked to Louis Diego and he called it regenerative organic, and that's what we do. But in this country, organic went, like, way so far the other way that you can't even talk about being organic until you've paid all kinds of thousands of dollars and certifications and visits and all of these things. So there's got to be some middle, and I don't know what it is between the bureaucracy that we see with organic and then the. Just anybody can claim the word regenerative. You know, there's hopefully there's some. Something in the middle so that things actually do get better and not just talked about.
[00:32:03] Speaker A: And until then, the best way to do to. To know whether it's regenerative or organic or. Or otherwise is to go find your farmer, know your farmer, and know where your food's coming from and know how they farm.
Do they have a YouTube channel?
[00:32:17] Speaker C: Cool.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: Do they do farm tours? Are they open? Do they let you come out and see what they're doing? We had people out here last week, not necessarily meat customers, but people interested in how we farm. So. Because they want to farm that way. So we share everything that we have and know and have learned over the course of the last four years and give it a. We give away all the things that we've learned.
I mean, well, we do, because they want to do it too, and we think that's amazing.
[00:32:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:32:49] Speaker A: You know, so learn. Know who your farmer is and find out how they're. They're doing business.
[00:32:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:32:55] Speaker A: Because you can't. What does packaging even mean anymore? Labeling. What does labeling even mean?
So how about if it just says air to ground farms and people ask us, well, what do you put on your label? Air to ground farms.
That's it. You know, we don't make any label claims. We don't put anything like that on it, because what's inside it is beef that was in the pasture, chicken that was grown in the pasture, pork that was grown in the woods. You know, sheep that was grown that was grown on pasture. It is lamb, it is beef, it is pork, it is chicken, and nothing else has been done to it. And that's what's in the package. It's beef. And so I think Jeremy kind of doing the same thing. You know, it's potatoes that I grew or trying to just. It's food, for crying out loud. It's food.
And his frustrations with trying to sell food.
[00:33:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:50] Speaker A: To the public.
[00:33:51] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:51] Speaker B: I think we're. We're enjoying the show. I think you guys would, too. It is. There's a lot of correlations that we can see. Obviously, we're not nearly as big as Jeremy. We don't have a thousand acres, and we don't have millions of dollars and millions of followers and all the things that he has. But it is a behind the scenes, pull back the curtain, the wizard of Oz kind of thing, and look at the trials and tribulations and frustrations and hardships and joys and the ups and downs of farming. And he's funny, but he's not trying to be just, you know, it's not like a slapstick comedy. You know, it's just. It's very entertaining. And I think it's.
I believe that it's good for farming. It's good for farmers. It is him. And doing this is good for the entire movement of doing maybe doing things a little bit differently.
[00:34:55] Speaker A: So what can we do in the, you know, what. What can we do to be a part of it? Well, we can support real farms, eat real food, and don't wait until there's a celebrity to tell us what to do in order to, you know, eat. Eat that good food and support our local farms and neighbors. Right?
[00:35:14] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: This has been fun, y'. All. Check that show out and learn a little bit more about, you know, the way they're farming over in the uk.
It's great. All right, thanks for hanging out with us again today. And until next time, bye.
[00:35:27] Speaker C: Bye.
